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Can I Use Underlayment Under Vinyl Flooring For Warmth?

Dear Bob and Betsy,
I live in northern Michigan and it can get cold in the winter. Can I use underlayment under vinyl flooring as insulation to keep my house warm? If so, what kind of underlayment is best?
Thanks! Silvia O.

Dear Sylvia,

BRRR! Winters in Michigan don’t sound fun! We can understand why you would be concerned with warmth and insulation in any place you can get it. There is some good news and bad news when it comes to underlayment and vinyl flooring.

No Thick Underlayment Under Vinyl Flooring

Unfortunately, adding insulating underlayment under vinyl flooring will cause the flooring to be unstable. Because vinyl flooring isn’t made from wood products, it does not have the same structure that laminate flooring does. Vinyl flooring needs to have a sturdy, stable sub-floor with very little cushioning regardless of the installation type: glue-down, click-lock, or loose lay. However, if you are installing vinyl flooring over a concrete sub-floor, you will need a very thin vapor barrior, such as Visqueen Vapor Barrier underlayment to protect your flooring from moisture.

Visqueen 6Mil PE Vapor Barrier
Visqueen 6Mil PE Vapor Barrier

If You’re Set On Having Insulation Under Your Floor…

If you are set on having the warmth and insulation under your flooring, we would suggest switching to laminate flooring. Laminate flooring has to have underlayment in order to float the flooring. There are lots of different underlayments to choose from for your specific needs. If you’re looking for insulation, we recommend Robert’s Super Felt Premium Underlayment. The felt adds lots of insulation and sound dampening properties that will keep you warm and your floors quiet!

Roberts Super Felt Premium Underlayment
Roberts Super Felt Premium Underlayment

Do you still have questions about vinyl flooring or underlayment? Feel free to comment in the space below and we will be happy to help!

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49 comments

  1. Vanessa

    Hello Juline, We would recommend pulling up all of the existing sheet vinyl and underlayment under it before installing new flooring. We recommend it to make sure no mold issue is created under the floor.

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    Hi! We had a shower pipe break. We have sub-floor, underlayment and glued sheet vinyl. My question is~ can I leave the existing sheet vinyl, lay underlayment on top of it then install my 12×12 vinyl tiles on top? It is a space of 32 square feet. What would I use to adhere the underlayment to the existing vinyl? Thank you for your experienced advice! Juline in Peculiar Missouri!

  3. Vanessa

    Hi Kim! Both laminate and vinyl are good options for areas like living rooms and hallways. Vinyl will be 100% waterproof and has easy maintenance. While laminate also has easy maintenance, it is only water resistant due to being a wood based product.

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    Hello which best vinyl or laminate flooring. I am replacing flooring in living room, family room and hall.

  5. Vanessa

    Hi Susan! You would be fine installing a floating laminate or vinyl floor over top of the pre-existing ceramic. You will have to make sure that the grout lines of the ceramic are no more than a quarter of an inch deep. If it exceeds that, you will have to level the grout lines before you install another floor. Thickness of laminate and vinyl is technically a preference – I would recommend looking into wear layer (vinyl) and AC ratings (laminate). These ratings will be your durability ratings. A lot of vinyls have a preattached underlayment and all laminate requires an underlayment of at least 2mm thick. If you have any further questions, our team would be happy to help advise you. Browse and Chat here!

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    Love your site, so informative. I was hoping to put either laminate or vinyl flooring over exsiting ceramic floor in kitchen, laundry room. Is laminate over existing tile a bad idea? I was told it would not be flexible. Do I need flexible? I am getting so many mixed opinions. It seems as if a surdy thickness of the laminate would mot cause issues. Is there a way to gauge how I choose the thickness of a pad with the thickness of laminate?
    Thank you again for all the great answers you provide.

  7. Vanessa

    Hi Chris! Felt is the best option for both sound and radiant insulation for underlayment for laminate installations. Cork is a better option for vinyl due to its thickness. So as long as you are installing laminate and not vinyl, we’d recommend felt for your project.

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    Is felt also the best insulator when installing over wood floors? How does it compare to cork? I am installing laminate over a vented crawlspace and insulation is my priority for the underlayment.

  9. Vanessa

    Hi Susan! Felt (Roberts or otherwise) will be the best insulator for putting laminate over concrete floors.

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    Hello,
    You mentioned Roberts felt for laminate, is it the best insulator for putting over concrete floor?I am looking for the very best and highest r value for keeping floors warm. Can you suggest several of your products to order for this application.?

  11. Vanessa

    Hi Juan! If the separations are over a quarter of an inch, you will need to use a leveler. If they are not, you should be able to use a 1mm underlayment under your vinyl to help with those imperfections.

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    Hi, I bought vinyl flooring to cover a wooden loft (wich is gonna be my bedroom). The wood tiles are very smooth, but in someplaces there is a 1mm separation between tiles. Is this going to be an issue? I was thinking on using a 1mm thick PET layer and then put the flooring over it. Is this a good idea?

    Hope you can understand my english, is not my first language.

  13. Alana Kane

    Hi Jacob, thanks for the question. I would look for an underlayment that has thermal ratings to help with the insulation. It should definitely help and should be all you need.

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    Hi, I am moving into a house that has 90 year old pine board as flooring but there is no subflooring. Long story cut short we are not pulling it out and there is no insulation so it gets cold in the winter etc. We want to lay laminate on top of it so my question is… will the underlayment be enough insulation or will we have to come up with a different solution?

  15. Alana Kane

    Hi Kelly, thanks for the question. Finishing the basement should help, but Spray foam will insulate it directly, giving you a better result. If you insulate, it may help keep the basement a bit warmer as well.

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    Hello, I put vinyl rigid core planks in our walk in closet. The floor is somewhat cold due to unfinished basement below it. Do you recommend treating the basement side of the subfloor with Spray foam or something to warm it up? We are about to finish the basement, so i would like to do something before we put up basement ceiling drywall. Or do you think simply finishing the basement will provide the layer of warmth to our closet floor?

  17. Alana Kane

    Hi Kazi, thanks for the question. There is not really anything you can do, but to fix the subfloor. I would recommend calling the builder to see if he will fix the issue. The subfloor can be one of the most important steps in the installation!

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    Hi we have installed luxury nynal floor a week ago. Now we realised our builder did not level the subfloor and laid it on the uneven concrete. SOme places are bumpy and some are going down. What to do?

  19. Alana Kane

    Hi Susan, thanks for the question. You can either add an additional layer of plywood over your current subfloor, or sand down the uneven parts. If you are sanding down the uneven parts, make sure the plywood is still thick enough to support the boards, at least 1/4 or 3/8″.

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    I am remodeling a cabin with an uneven plywood floor. What can I put over this floor as a surface under sheet vinyl?

  21. Alana Kane

    Awesome, I am glad it worked out for you! Best of luck with the rest of your project.

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    Thanks for the reply. The vinyl laminate planks are about 1/4 inch thick, ridgid core with about 1/16 inch foam underlayment attached, brand name Mannington Adura Max with locking tongue & groove. Imperfections won’t be an issue. Surface must be smooth and clean, however. I have 3 mil visqueen to cover the old sticky adhesive I did use a cement compound where some of the particle board was broken out or uneven. That is also used for floor leveling by floating it across the surface if one needs to do that. I appreciate the confirmation on my approach, I never want to replace this floor again. The laminate planks have a lifetime warranty.

  23. Alana Kane

    Hi Jeff, thanks for the question. Your subfloor should always be level, as vinyl can take on the shape of any high or low places. You mentioned your vinyl is top of the line, so if it is an SPC or WPC rigid core construction, it is less likely to take the shape of the subfloor imperfections. If you want to just put visqueen overtop, it will most likely not level the floor. Since your vinyl has underlayment attached, the Visqueen will prevent the adhesive from getting stuck to the floor, however, I am not sure if the attached underlayment will be thick enough to mask the imperfections, since I cannot see it for myself. With the visqueen, attached underlayment and a rigid core construction, you should be fine. If you’re installing a standard LVT, you may want to consider covering it with a cement compound to level the floor and eliminate the sticky feel. Hope this helps!

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    Hi,
    I am replacing my kitchen and dining room vinyl flooring with vinyl wood plank (6″ x 36″). I intend to have it “free floating”. The new flooring has its own underlayment attached (it is very top of the line flooring). When I peel up the old vinyl (installed is the peel & stick squares), the subfloor also had adhesive trowelled onto it before the tiles were attached. The subfloor is particle board. The old adhesive that is left on the subfloor is way too difficult to deal with in order to remove. It is quite sticky. I am afraid the new floor will become stuck to it and not free float. Also I am afraid I might hear tacky sounds when walking on it if I install right over the old adhesive. I normally might have just put the new floor right over the old but several places in the subfloor need repair (cut out and new subfloor installed). I have read several places to simply put down visqueen over the adhesive and put the new flooring on top of it. I can’t think of any other way to deal with this. Would you suggest this or anything else? Removing the old adhesive is out of the question and I don’t want to lay wooden sheet underlayment. Thanks!

  25. Alana Kane

    Hi Jon, thanks for reaching out. Have you tried goo-gone or another adhesive remover? Visqueen is very thin and will lay over the adhesive. It is best to get the floor as level as possible. Depending on the type of vinyl you are installing, it could take the shape of the adhesive after pressure is put on the planks.

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    I am installing vinyl plank flooring and need to remove an existing layer of self stick tiles which were installed on a layer of luan underlayment. I am able to remove the self stick tiles and most of the adhesive pretty easily however there is some residual adhesive still remaining which is tacky. Is there some product I can use to encapsulate this or can I use a layer of visqueen?

    Thanks

  27. Alana Kane

    Hi Dordy, thanks for the question. A luxury vinyl will be a good option for a basement apartment. There are several types of vinyl to consider. If you want a softer feel under foot and a hard plank, I’d recommend do an SPC or WPC vinyl with an attached underlayment. These are rigid cores that have dimensional stability and will be soft underfoot with an underlayment. If you opt for a standard LVT, the planks will feel hard underfoot with a concrete subfloor. SPC vinyls tend to be more affordable, so I think this would be best for you! You can take a look at our SPC vinyls here: https://www.bestlaminate.com/vinyl-plank-flooring/search-by-construction/spc/

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    I am building a separate apartment in my basement. I live in Canada, so I want the floors to be warm enough, and not very hard, as I am putting it on the concrete floor. I have seen a lot of laminate flooring in basements that were peeling off, which I obviously want to avoid. I was wondering if you would still recommend Luxury Vinyl, and without an underlayment?

    Thanks.

  29. Alana Kane

    Hi Vi, you can install over it! The glue should fill the holes fine.

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    I am installing vynal plank in my kitchen. I leveled the floor and screwed down a 1/4 inch subfloor. Do I have to cover all the screw holes before I glue down the venal plank, and if I do what product do I use.

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    Hey Cathie, there is really not a padding that is going to keep the floor from feeling cold. Obviously a thicker pad will help, but it still may get cold at times.

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    Just moved into condo built on a slab. Northeast winters are cold. Laminate flooring will go directly over existing tile. What do I use underneath flooring to help alleviate cold?

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    Hey Matthew, if the dip is greater than a quarter of an inch, then yes I would level it off. If the material is water proof, no padding or vapor barrier is necessary to put under!

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    I am in the process of removing old tile from my concrete basement laundry room that has a drain. I am planning to use Allure Traffic Master Luxury vinyl Plank flooring on our budget because it is water resistances and from my understanding can be lay directly on the concrete. My question would be would I have to level the floor where the drain slightly dips. Also, would I need to use a any sort of vapor barrier? I live in Michigan, so we get all kinds of weather conditions.

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    Hello! If you want a floating floor, the 2mm option is not going to be for you. That would be a glue down floor since it is so thin. Any thickness vinyl would work though asd it is always going to be waterproof!

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    We are having our flooring replaced. We have a concrete subfloor. Thinking of going with Luxury vinyl. This is the main entryway, living area, family room (all high traffic area). What kind of vinyl (2mm or 8mm) and underlayment would be appropriate? We live in Houston, Texas and it gets HOT in summer. We deal with humidity too.

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    Hey Tom, unfortunately no. Vinyl flooring needs a special padding for vinyl, so one for a bamboo is not going to work for that sort of install. Hope this helps!

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    I am removing an engineered bamboo floor to replace it with vinyl plank flooring. Could I just leave the underlayment from the bamboo floor?

  39. Viena

    Hi Gurmukh, thanks for reaching out. There are many types of radiant heating solutions, and a large variety of linoleum and vinyl flooring options. When purchasing your radiant heating, we recommend finding an option that is made specifically for your type of flooring. Here at Bestlaminate, we offer vinyl plank flooring. It is safe to use most radiant heating solutions beneath vinyl plank flooring; however, we always recommend checking with the manufacturer of the heating. Hope this helps!

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    Can linoleum flooring be used over radiant heated floor ? If yes, up to what degree of temperature is safe or recommended.

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    Thanks much

  42. Alana Kane

    Hi Jim, thanks for the question! It all depends on what style you’re going for. If you want the same look throughout your home, you would want to put the same plank in all the rooms. Most commonly, you’ll find vinyls from 5mm to 8mm in width. If you want more of a rustic or modern look, a wider plank would be nice. A more traditional look, a thinner plank. Keep in mind, if you go with a wide plank, a smaller room may be harder to accommodate. Anything between 5-7mm, you should be fine!

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    Our living room is 12′ x 33′. we plan to put down vinyl plank. What size plank would recommend? Would this be the same size plank for the bathrooms and bedrooms?

  44. Alana Kane

    Hi Lester, thanks for the question. Most vinyls can be installed over an electric radiant heating system. We do not sell this particular brand, so you would need to refer to the manufacturer instructions or ask the store for more details on this particular brand.

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    Can you install Lifeproof flooring over an electric floor heat the floor heat recommend underpayment to stop heat lose the electric floor needs to be set in thin set

  46. Alana Kane

    Hi Normand, thanks for the question! You cannot use spray foam insulation. You will need to get a laminate specific underlayment that floats above the subfloor. You can shop the options here: https://www.bestlaminate.com/accessories/underlayment/

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    Can you use foam insulation as an ubderlayment for laminated floors and How would you do this?

  48. Alana Kane

    Hi Martha, thanks for the question. We would NOT recommend using siding underlayment. Flooring underlayment is specifically manufactured to support your floor, aid in moisture prevention and other variables. By using non-flooring underlayment, you run the risk of potential flooring damage with moisture, buckling and more. It will also void your warranty by not using correct materials. Let us know if you have any additional questions!

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    Dear Bob and Betsy I have a friend who used siding underpayment for their laminate flooring.Although it looks just like the insulating you use under laminate, it says it is combustible..can you use this?

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